Product Description
This
racing stimulation cockpit gives you the ultimate realistic racing
experience. New, solid leg-friendly framework for a comfortable fit.
Reinforced steel, tubular construction adds extra stability, eliminating
excess wobble. Increased seat cushioning. Ergonomic race chair for real
life race stimulation. Made of high quality materials, non-flammable.
Multi adjustable for ages 8 upwards. For use with all Logitech steering
wheels, patented folding racing seat and easy to assemble. Playseats
works with PC, XBOX 360, NINTENDO GAMECUBE, PS ONE, PS2, PS3.
Product Details
- Size: One Size
- Color: Black/Silver
- Brand: Playseat
- Model: 72000
- Released on: 2007-01-01
- Platforms: Windows Vista, Windows
7, PlayStation2, Xbox, Windows XP, Nintendo Wii, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
- Number of items: 1
- Dimensions: 40.00" h x 22.00" w x
55.00" l, 44.00 pounds
Features
- High-tech
chair for racing video games puts you in the middle of the excitement
- Adjustable to almost every game console/computer and steering wheel
- Just install separately available game steering wheel and pedals
- Reinforced steel tubular construction eliminates excess wobble;
folds for storage
- Measures 52.1 x 19.7 x 38.6 inches (L x H x
W)
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com Product
Description
With its completely renewed design and
double-stitched vinyl cover, the black Playseats Evolution gaming seat
puts you smack dab in the middle of your favorite racing game. The seat
works with almost all racing peripherals on the market and every game
console, including the Xbox 360, GameCube, PlayStation2, PCs, and more.
More importantly, the chair is notably comfortable while delivering the
most realistic racing simulation around.
Details include a
reinforced steel tubular construction that adds stability and eliminates
excess wobble, a non-flammable seat material, and an easy-to-assemble
design. Just install a game steering wheel, such as the latest Logitech
model, on the middle pole and attach a couple of pedals along the bottom
(all sold separately). The setup is also easily adaptable, with
multiple adjustment knobs letting you move the wheel and pedals closer
or farther, depending on your height. Appropriate for ages 8 and older,
the Evolution seat is the perfect accessory for gamers who want to boost
their lap times in style.
Customer
Reviews
An expensive attachment, but
does exactly what it sets out to do
Racing games need a wheel,
and wheels need to be fixed to something steady. I missed playing racing
games because the standard controllers just do not fit the bill. The
good news is that the seat is allowing me to rediscover racing games.
Despite
being 6ft3 200+ lbs the seat is comfortable; I can even slide my 6 year
old in, and play with him steering and me on the pedals. Both the
pedals and steering wheel attachments are adjustable with its max range
out of the comfortable reach of my legs. If anything, they should make
it work for smaller folks like my 6 year old, who cannot reach the
pedals. He is 4ft, I expect you need to be at least 4ft6. The seat
folds, but think twice if you want it to pack away discreetly in a tight
corner; in this regard the manufacturer's photos are accurate. The only
thing that I would really add are channels to enable the wires to be
discreetly routed; with just 3 cables for the wheel, it still looks like
a mess of spaghetti. The steering wheel attachment could be a bit
stiffer, but I do not notice this when playing. They also include loads
of Velcro and ties to keep things attached. Bottom line, if you like
racing games, and want to treat yourself, this seat will fit the bill.
Hardly justifies its cost
I bought my Playseats
Evolution Gaming Seat back in 2007 around the time that Forza 2 came out
for the Xbox 360. I also purchased the Microsoft Xbox 360 wireless
racing wheel. I also own a PlayStation 3 and a Logitech Driving Force
Pro wheel that I have used with the seat.
I can't recommend this
seat for the following reasons:
1. The included "seat" that gets
mounted to the whole thing is very cheap and not even close to a real
car seat. It comes "folded up" and you basically unfold the back
section. Because of this, there is a metal rod that runs across right
where my backbone hits the chair. Since this is a "cheap" chair, it does
not have very good lumbar support and after a few races my back really
begins to feel the metal rod.
2. The steering wheel mount is
designed to pivot up and down, but it is very hard to get the bolt tight
enough to keep it from pivoting up and down when you're actually using
the seat. Occasionally you'll have to yank up on your wheel to pull this
mount back into position.
3. Wheel support & Nickle and
Diming. The Xbox 360 racing wheel I purchased with the seat didn't mount
well and I had to hack together a solution using some foam material
(craft store) and particle board. Eventually I made it work. Since I
bought my seat, I see that Playseats has introduced a 360 wheel mount
solution (for extra money) as well as seat rail sliders, stick shift
holders, etc. For $300 all of this stuff should be included. Especially
with how low quality the seat actually is.
The Xbox 360 pedals
work fine w/ the pedal mount if you jam them back under the lip which
causes some scuffing and wear to the pedals. The Logitech Driving Force
Pro wheel works well with the steering wheel mount but there is no
reasonable way to attach the pedals. I don't believe zip-ties and velcro
are an acceptable mounting solution (though PLENTY are included).
4.
This may come down to personal taste, but, the between the legs design
results in a very flimsy, unstable feel to the whole thing.
As
some other reviewers have mentioned, I also wondered if I received a
"used" product. My box was very badly damaged (but everything inside was
okay).
If you can pick this up for $150-200 and are willing to
put some work into it (replacing/fixing the seat rod issue, welding the
steering wheel mount so it doesn't pivot, etc) then it might be a decent
value.
Awesome!
I use this with my XBox 360
wheel for both Forza 2 and PGR3. You'll never go back to using a stupid
desk or fold-up table like I did after using a chair like this.
I
have hard tiled floor, no carpeting, no padding. If I pay attention
during transition periods between game play, the stem is a little wobbly
but when I'm deep into racing and throwing my body every which way, I
don't notice the wobble. I suppose if I want super solid stem, I could
have paid for a $1000+ unit from a competitor. Not me! I'd rather save
it for my next "necessity" ... three-panel set-up for my Forza 2! Bottom
line -- GREAT value ... unless you have alot of free time to make your
own rig.
One more thing, the mounting bracket sucks if you have a
Microsoft XBox 360 Wheel. That's because the metal mounting panel is
too small for this wheel. If you don't have any wood panel scraps in
your garage, you'll need to make a trip to the local hardware store ...
cut yourself a 8" by 18" panel from half-inch thick particle wood board,
drill a couple of holes for bolting onto the pre-drilled holes in the
metal mounting panel and then use some plastic cable ties to strap in
the wheel to your wood board in addition to using the flimsy mounting
clamp on the bottom of the 360 wheel. Shouldn't take more than half an
hour to do even if you're sub-par at carpentry skills ... I'm a geek
software programmer and it was a breeze for me (but then, I was highly
motivated to get the set up done so I could start racing ASAP Forza 2 in
style).
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Edit (Feb 8, 2008):
I
ended up getting a Logitech G25 wheel + 6-spead shifter so that I could
practice manual shifting on "GTR 2: Realism Redefined" using my new
gaming PC on the same LCD TV that I use for my XBox 360. Turned out that
attaching the G25 wheel to the Evo mount panel was MUCH simpler than
attaching the XBox 360 wheel.
The Evo has pre-drilled holes that
line up with the bottom of your G25 wheel platform and your G25 pedal
platform, though you will have to offset the Evo pedal panel mount quite
a bit to the left (from the perspective of a sitting position) to where
it's strange looking but not impractical from a functional standpoint.
If
you have a G25, look into buying the additional Playseat Evo attachment
for the G25 shifter. I don't think Amazon sells it ... I ended up
getting that attachment from MaxWho.com.
I never drove with
manual transmission in real life so I can't tell you how legit the
Playseat + G25 shifter arrangement is. But a friend of mine who track
races and is into the street culture scene tried it out and said it was
pretty close to reality. He ended up "testing" my set up for hours ... I
had to kick him out because it was getting to be past my bed time!
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