Customer Reviews
Great Game with the Worst Patching Scheme I've Seen
First of all, there are a lot
to like about the CoH series. The graphics, the physics and the unit
strategy elements of the CoH series of games are by far among the best
in the RTS games I have played, and I have played RTS games for almost
20 years starting from a very young age. This series of games present
campaigns in managable segments and load them with tons of strategic
elements to make them fun and refreshing. The opposing fronts game adds
two more armies: Britsh 3rd Army and the German Panther Elite to which
you can command (in addition to the original CoH's US Army's 101 air
born able company and the German troops).
My interest in the WWII
history made this game even more fascinating to me personally as I can
engage my computer units in some historically signifcant WWII campaigns.
The game does a good job of including bits of actual WWII history to
further engage the players. The representation of the units and
equipment is also quite authentic, true to the real life. However, this
can be somewhat problematic as the Panther Elite troops tend to be very
strong (true to real life). In a small skirmish setting, this in-balance
leads to some game play problems, as in a multiplayer game, a player
commanding Panther Elite units can quite easily over power other players
due to the high fire power and the great mobility of the Panther Elite
units.
Panther Elite units are heavily armored, fast moving, and the
basic grenadier units are good in both fighting and vehicle repair. The
Panther Elite also has the best troop carriers, best armor protection
and incredible mobility and mobile fire support to provide fast recharge
to mobile units. This make the Panther Elite a force that is very
difficult to defend against in games against actual human players. The
problem with balance is not significant in playing against the computer
in campaigns as the balance is well tuned in those missions. But in
playing against human opponents on an even play field, a player playing
Panther Elite has significant advantage in the game play.
With
British units, the mode of play is more concentrated in defense and
longe range barrage, as the British tanks are slow, the engineering
units are also slow and expensive. The British troops need more
leadership guidance, and has relatively weak weaponry in comparison to
the German and even the Americans. The artillery units of British is
where the action is for this faction, so I guess depends on your
prefence in gameplay, the British could be fun. But for me, I prefer a
quick and efficient run of armored units, so Panther Elite units are far
more entertaining, much to my dismay (as my historitical learning, and
dispise of Nazis always tugs at me whenever I play the Panther Elite and
lay waste to allied units).
The intallation process was a huge pain
however, which is why the game gets 4 instead of 5 stars, the intall
from the Opposing Fronts game DVD reverted my patched intallation of CoH
to an earlier version, so upon login I had to download patches AGAIN!!
What's so insane is that the patches are not cumulative. In order to get
to version 2.2 let's say, one has to download and install version 1.2,
1.3, 1.4, 1.5... INDIVIDUALLY!! This is the most insane patching scheme I
have ever seen. Every other game can handle patching any previous
version to the latest patch with just one install, but not CoH series,
this just drives you nuts. It tooks over 3 hours overall to install CoH:
OF then having to download and install all the patches.
Stability is
overall great on my system, with a Dual core proecssor with a Nvidia
8800GT video card on 2 GB of RAM. I did not experience crashing problem
many others experienced, but I also didn't get the game until patch 2.2
is released which seemed to fixed a great deal of issues.
Overall,
this game is lots of fun to play and a big pain to install and patch.
But if you can stand the wait (give you self 3 hours on a fast internet
connection) it takes to install, you will be rewarded with an execellent
RTS experience as long as you have the right hardware to handle the
game (fast video card and lots of RAM for all the eye candy). Make sure
to patch the game to the latest version.
What a buggy POS this is....
I have never seen a more
buggy game. Patch after patch after patch. On # 4 now and it won't
launch. Finally had it working after extensive emails to customer
suupport then, today, it decided it needed another 112MB patch. After
downloading it, it supposedly patched but on relaunch still wants the
patch. ARRRGGHHH! Who is writing this crappy code and who is checking
it? I just want to come home from work and play a little game...instead
its sheer frustration.
I understand their desire for copyright
protection, but their requirements for you to jump through so many hoops
is ridiculous. THQ you should be ashamed....
Patches...Patches...More Patches
I usually disregard Amazon
reviews of video games because they always seem overly negative and
repetitive about bugs I never find in the game... that is not the case
with COH OF. I played the first COH by disconnecting my internet
whenever I played the game in order to avoide the online fiasco;
however, this time I decided I wanted to play the game online(I did try
my hand at disconnecting my internet to skip to single-player and the
game read: "No Validated media" or something along those lines, so I
thought I had no choice but to go through the online madness.)
Essentially,
I started out by not being able to get past the install menu. After
scanning through forums, I found out you had to turn off user account
control(computer protection measure) and go through a process of right
clicking on the icon, clicking explore, going into files bla bla bla...
basically, it was much harder than it should be to install a game.
Anyway, I got to the first page and it requried a patch. I clicked to
download the patch... 3 hours later and with the patch harldy at
half-way, I went to the internet to find a more effective method. After a
long search through forums, I found an employee from relic that
explicitly recommended file planet(a site that has nothing to do with
relic)... So I went through the meticulous process of downloading all
the patches from fileplanet(which requried me to install a download
manager unique to the site) and I canceled the patch I had downloaded
straight from the game(for some reason it only goes 1 kb/s when you
click it on the game... employees on forums were saying you need to turn
off your fire wall[I did this later with little avail])
Anyway, I
got a bunch of versions and thought I was done... to find out that I
had to apply it to the game. So I went through every single one and
applied it to the game. Then the game wanted more: It said I still
required patches. But this time, when I clicked download patch, the
browser exited and brought up a unique relic downloader that had not
been mentioned ONCE on any relic forum I had scanned. Well, it took
forever. It took forever and one of the patches stalled and stopped at
63%... I applied the rest and tried re-booting COH again. Nope, I need a
patch(it wasn't even the same one, this patch only had 1.38 mb whereas
the other was much, much larger). Okay, download the patch. The patch is
downloaded and now the game needs to restart. Okay, restart the game.
You need a 1.38 patch! Again, and again, and again... Oh my god,
relic... really? Could you not have just tested this game a bit more
before making me download half the godd*mn game!? Not to mention the
fact that all your employees on forums had nothing substantial to say
but "maybe", "possibly", "try"... I could speculate myself, I'm looking
for answers so I can just play the game!
If every game operated
like COH, I would stop buying video games... its the most tedious
process I have ever gone through. A relic employee claimed that many
companies use the patch company that relic does, but not many companies
have customers download half their product AFTER spending a bunch of
money buying the game! One word for this game: Fubar. I'm never buying a
game from relic again--even if the gameplay is great--until relic stops
concentrating on getting the game sold and instead concentrates on
providing decent service for its customers. Oh, and I'm still dumb and
trying to figure it out... I got the patch from another site and am
downloainding 2.40 to 2.50.... 20 bucks for 20 hours of frustration?
Waste of money... Maybe Tales of Valor is configured differently(The
game had lower rates so I got this one) BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT IT
If
your looking for quick enjoyment(ie you want to play a game now), do not
want to spend several hours downloading patches and surpassing bugs, or
your looking for a quick online RTS: DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME. I WOULD
HIGHLY, HIGHLY DISCOURAGE BUYING THIS OR ANY RELIC PRODUCT.
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